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Vegard2711
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| Moreno er en jeg håper Man Utd følger med på, veldig spennende spiller. Real Madrid er vel interessert også så hvis de vil ha han så får de vel han men de trenger jo ikke en venstreback nå. Sevilla er jo kjent for å skape gode backer, både Sergio Ramos (har riktignok blitt stopper nå) og Dani Alves kom jo begge fra Sevilla. |
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Vegard2711
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| Posted: 23.01.2014 16:12 Post subject: |
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Med Mata på vei så betyr nok det kroken på døra for Kagawa. Synd, for jeg likte hvordan han var i Dortmund og det er synd at han ikke har fått det til i Man Utd. Men han kan fortsatt gjøre nytte for seg om det ikke er på banen, Klopp sikler nesten hver gang han prater om Kagawa så det kan jo fort bli aktuelt å prøve å få til en byttehandel (+ eventuelt noe penger) mellom Man Utd og Dortmund. Gündogan drøyer med å signere ny kontrakt så det kan åpne for å sende Kagawa tilbake + litt penger for å få Gündogan til OT.
Går noen rykter om det men de virker ikke å være like sikre ryker som Mata til Man Utd. Det hadde vært herlig for Man Utd sin del om det kunne skje, men enn så lenge så er nok det bare en drøm. Men som nevnt så drøyer Gündogan med å signere ny kontrakt så hvis Dortmund vil ha noe for han så må de vurdere å kvitte seg med han snart og da tror jeg de ikke ville hatt noe imot å få Kagawa tilbake. |
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robinla
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| Posted: 23.01.2014 16:25 Post subject: |
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| Jo Inge Berget til Cardiff... JO INGE BERGET til Cardiff.... fyren er ikke engang blant de beste spissene i Tippeligaen og nå skal han til Premier League?!?!?!?!?! Hadde en periode litt tro på babyface i PL, men dette begynner bare å se helt latterlig ut. |
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Vegard2711
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| Posted: 23.01.2014 16:28 Post subject: |
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| Nå er ikke Berget en vanlig spiss da. Pleier som regel å spille bak en spiss eller litt ute på sidene. |
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robinla
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| Posted: 23.01.2014 16:32 Post subject: |
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| Det er vel sant, men han er likevel ikke i særklasse god i Tippeligaen og nå skal han visstnok være god nok for Premier League. Kan like greit hente Hoseth og Tommy Høiland i samme slengen. Menmen, det svekker M**** og det er jo ingen uting. |
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| Posted: 23.01.2014 16:36 Post subject: |
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| Berget er veldig god, kanskje ikke god nok for PL, men ser ikke helt bort fra at han kan lykkes. |
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| Posted: 23.01.2014 17:24 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Quote from: Y2J on Today at 03:56:33 PM
Ok guys, I was the source the RAWK source during this whole thing. I didn't want to reveal myself cause I didn't want to get bombarded with PMs every couple of hours about him, but since this one is basically as good as over for us, there is no harm in pointing out some details about this transfer to let the RAWK universe know how much we fucked up during this transfer as my source is as close to the player as you can get.
First of all, let me tell you that I'm not a fan of the club overpaying by any stretch, I hate it when clubs like City or Chelsea pay over the top fees for the likes of Lescott or Shaun Wright Phillips cause that means the market is inflated. However, just because the market is inflated doesn't mean that there are some players out there who are worth a good chunk of money to be paid for.
There is also a fine line between being too smart and being too smart for your own good, I didn't exactly followed the ins & outs of our other negotiation models with the other targets in the summer but there is a pattern developing of us missing out on first targets like Dempsey, Mkhitaryan, Costa, Willian and bar a miracle now, Salah. It is hard to properly judge the transfer committee plus I feel for the scouts who have their hard work cut out for when a club comes in and gets the players we have been following for months.
Now we were following Salah closely since October, we sent a lot of scouts to Basel games, began negotiating in November and his agent met with Ayre in the West Ham game to discuss terms with them. We had a verbal agreement with Basel regarding everything and we quickly became Salah's favoured destination as he saw us as a club where he can grow, get a lot of 1st team action and become a world class player. I don't know what happened between Salah's agent and Ayre, but the impression that the club got from that meeting was that, in reality there is no way Salah is going to leave for anyone bar Liverpool and/or there are no real offers on the table for Basel bar us. When we got to sending Basel our opening offer, it was a laughable offer well below what was verbally agreed upon, think of Wenger 40 million plus one pound bid, this was even more laughable.
Basel raised their as a result of being pissed off. We tried to up our offer but it was again well below what was previously agreed upon and Basel didn't want to lower their demands as they sensed that we were wasting their time. They even began courting other clubs that Salah is available. Milan & Inter thought that Basel's original demands were too high for them, Leverkusen, Wolfsburg & Monchengladbach were ready to pay but Salah didn't want to go to Germany. Basel tried to claim that Atletico was interested but it was a bluff by all accounts, however a host of other clubs wanted to be kept updated on the deal one of whom was Chelsea.
Since we saw that Salah didn't want to go to the Bundesliga and with no other club offering Basel any offer, we assumed he'll stay there till the summer and we can re-open negotiations, but Newcastle offered Basel a good first offer and now him coming to us in the summer was in doubt if Basel & Newcastle agree a fee. That's why we came back with a much more improved offer, almost what was verbally agreed upon before the window even started. Salah's personal demands were also agreed previously so there was no problems with him & his agent, just us agreeing some minor details with Basel. Chelsea, who were updated on the deal, at last asked about his availability and Basel asked about 8 million more than what we were offering (they tried to fleece Chelsea and I'm sorry last night I got confused cause I misunderstood my source as telling me Chelsea offered 8 million more, which isn't true) but Chelsea really offered a couple of million more than us but with a lot of add ons that favour Basel heavily, we didn't even hesitate and backed off, not even matching their deal.
The only thing stopping Salah from going to Chelsea is that he doesn't want to go there, full stop. Him & his advisers believe he won't get much playing time there and if it is in his hands, it is better to stay at Basel and wait till the summer to get his move, however Basel want to sell & get their money now and begin scouting their next target (who will also be from Egypt). There is a third club who asked for Salah's availability (my source won't tell me cause Salah doesn't want this to go public as he prefers to join that third club over Chelsea and doesn't want a repeat of the fiasco surrounding his negotiations with Liverpool) but like I said barring a miracle, most probably he won't be our player come the end of the window.
What makes this irritating is that we wasted three months of scouting him, weeks of negotiations and then tried to lowball Basel and looked stupid at the end when we fell flat on our arses. Board wise, there have to be some questions asked about how good we are at negotiating some deals. |
Dette begynner å bli patetisk, kanskje på tide å bytte ut Ayre med noen som er noe mer kompetent. |
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| Posted: 24.01.2014 09:11 Post subject: |
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Berget har jeg ikke tro på, tror han faller igjennom på det nivået. Nederland eller Belgia hadde nok passet Berget bedre. Eikrem og MMD har jeg derimot mer tro på at kan lykkes.
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http://www.nettavisen.no/...746077.ece
Da var Berget klar for Cardiff, herregud for en gjeng..
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BR hinter i intervju idag at Salah ikke skal være helt enig med Chelsea så de har ikke gitt opp enda.
Syltynt, men det hadde jo vært gøy å vinne et slag igjen. Selv om jeg står for at det ikke er posisjonen man burde fokusere mest på å forsterke akkurat nå.
Edit: Ellers syns jeg denne er litt herlig:
Ian Ayre goes into a pub:
"pint please"
"That'll be £2.40 please"
"I value it at 47p"
"Fine, you aren't having it then"
"Didn't want it" |
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| Posted: 24.01.2014 12:17 Post subject: |
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Vi får se. Pre-match pressekonferanse m/Mourinho 13:30
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RÃ¥nny
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Gleder meg, kanskje dette har vært tidenes mindgames fra Mourinho, at det ikke blir noe av det likevel 
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| Han dreiv jo på med nesten det samme i sommer. Da med Demba Ba og utlån til Arsenal. Holdt muligheten åpen for en låneavtale helt til slutten av vinduet. Tror nok det er dette Wenger tenkte på da han uttalte at han syntes det var rart at Chelsea ville selge til en konkurrent. Selv om det selvsagt er smått ironisk iom at han solgte RVP for halvannen sesong siden. |
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Vegard2711
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| Posted: 24.01.2014 13:04 Post subject: |
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Michael Owen på Twitter:
| Quote: | | So, Juan Mata is on the verge of a move to United. A little dickie bird tells me there is more good news for United fans coming soon! #tease |
Litt irriterende at han ikke sier mer enn det Men spennende at det ser ut til å skje noe mer, om det er en overgang eller en ny kontrakt til Rooney for eksempel får man vente å se. |
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| RÃ¥nny wrote: | http://www.nettavisen.no/sport/fotball/article3746077.ece
Da var Berget klar for Cardiff, herregud for en gjeng.. |
Lurer forresten på hvilken agent unge Berget bruker.
Or maybe not... 
Ellers enig, tror ikke vår gamle spiller (for guds skyld Lyn, og ikke Molde) er hvass nok for dette nivået. |
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RÃ¥nny
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| Posted: 24.01.2014 13:30 Post subject: |
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SkySportNews James Cooper (live from Carrington): I'm being led to believe that an agreement has not been reached about the sale of Juan Mata. I don't think there is any cause for alarm there, we know an offer has been put in via a third party.
Forhåpentligvis får vi svar fra Mourinho innen en halvtime, drittlei 
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| Posted: 24.01.2014 13:37 Post subject: |
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| Mourinho bekreftet nå på pressekonferansen at Mata er på vei til Man Utd. |
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| Posted: 24.01.2014 13:44 Post subject: |
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Mourinho spurte Mata når budet kom om han ønsket å dra, og det ønsket Mata.
Mourinho sier også at han får dra fordi de respekterer Mata såpass mye, og at det er bra for Mata, og Premier League at han blir i England.
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| Posted: 24.01.2014 13:51 Post subject: |
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Grunnene Mourinho nevner bryr han seg selvsagt ingenting om. Hva Mata vil eller hva som er bra for ligaen for eks.
Spørsmålet er vel om han selger til United fordi han vil ha/får Rooney, eller om han gjør det bare fordi de bød mest penger. |
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Vegard2711
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| Posted: 24.01.2014 14:06 Post subject: |
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| Tror både Mourinho og de andre som bestemmer i klubben fant ut at det ikke var noe poeng å ha Mata på benken når de kan få så mye penger for han og hente inn noen andre spillere. |
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| Posted: 24.01.2014 14:11 Post subject: |
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Forbilledlig personbehandling i Matasaken fra Chelseas side. Liker måten Mourinho tar avstand fra den gammeldagse idealismen ang salg til konkurrenter. Må bare si at jeg skjønner ikke hvorfor så mange Chelseasupportere reagerer så kraftig, når både Willian og Hazard fyller kantrollene på en mye bedre måte enn det Mata har fått til. Det virker som de har null forståelse for hvilke spillerprofiler som passer hvor, man får ikke trykt en firkant gjennom et rundt hull.
Lykke til, Mata. Dette var den beste løsningen for alle involverte.
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| Posted: 24.01.2014 14:14 Post subject: |
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Mourinho er en fantastisk fyr.
Kanskje han har en sjult agenda, selger Mata til United fordi han vet at han en dag kommer til å ta over United selv
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| Posted: 24.01.2014 14:15 Post subject: |
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| Rånny, om Mourinho har en skjult agenda med dette salget så er det å få Rooney til Chelsea, ikke seg selv til United. Det tror jeg du er enig i selv også er mest sannsynlig |
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| Posted: 24.01.2014 14:21 Post subject: |
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Dette er den første spilleren som går fra Chelsea til Man Utd i PL historien. (hvis overgangen går i boks da  ) |
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